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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175448512" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175448512">(Sep 11 2019 at 16:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>BTW -- I have a dr's appt so I won't be around for meeting tomorrow -- maybe we want to chat a bit async instead? The main thing I've on my mind is figuring out how to make the ICE breaker stuff happen. It'd be good to enumerate out the tasks for that and maybe we can split them?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175449304" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175449304">(Sep 11 2019 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>That plan makes sense to me.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175555551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175555551">(Sep 12 2019 at 18:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry, I forgot to answer but yeah, seems good to me too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175611190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175611190">(Sep 13 2019 at 10:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok well we obviously didn't have the meeting, but I think the required steps are:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175611337" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175611337">(Sep 13 2019 at 10:35)</a>:</h4>
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<li>we need a guide that helps people to get started with this sort of bug</li>
<li>we need some mechanism to make a github team people can subscribe to (<a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/ICE.20breaker.20self-subscribing.20github.20team" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/ICE.20breaker.20self-subscribing.20github.20team">as discussed here</a>)</li>
<li>we need an announcement (maybe for the new team blog I am setting up!)</li>
<li>we need a github label</li>
<li>we need a script people can copy/paste or -- better -- we need some command we can issue the triagebot. This fits with the discussion around "self-subscribing  teams".</li>
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<p>That bot would assign the label and write something like:</p>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>Hey LLVM icebreakers! This bug has been identified as a good
&quot;LLVM ice-breaking candidate&quot;. In case it&#39;s useful, here are some
[general instructions] for tackling these sorts of bugs. Maybe take a look?

cc @foo @bar @baz ...
</pre></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175611397" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175611397">(Sep 13 2019 at 10:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh and</p>
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<li>we need to update our compiler-team page to drive attention to these groups as a way to contribute<br>
    - and maybe think about the main contribution page?</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175627074" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175627074">(Sep 13 2019 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>nice write up</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175627085" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175627085">(Sep 13 2019 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, we need all that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175627114" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175627114">(Sep 13 2019 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>and we need to organize ourselves to see how we can tackle those things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175633724" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175633724">(Sep 13 2019 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>a lot of those are pretty small items</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175637547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175637547">(Sep 13 2019 at 15:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, some items are little things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175637565" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175637565">(Sep 13 2019 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>what I was wondering is how should we split</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175637601" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175637601">(Sep 13 2019 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you want to assign tasks? I'd be happy to take some that you want me to tackle</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175637683" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175637683">(Sep 13 2019 at 15:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we should just do the short ones and open issues for the large ones?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175637689" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175637689">(Sep 13 2019 at 15:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>actually I think the only really larger one is ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175637941" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175637941">(Sep 13 2019 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>we need a guide that helps people to get started with this sort of bug</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175637962" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175637962">(Sep 13 2019 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>the others seems shorter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175637977" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175637977">(Sep 13 2019 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, let's split tasks?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175656916" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175656916">(Sep 13 2019 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's start by opening an issue on compiler-team repo and copying my list of bullets into there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175656978" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175656978">(Sep 13 2019 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can create the label, I guess something like ICEBreaker-LLVM ? that can also wait. The hardest part will be picking a nice color :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175657011" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175657011">(Sep 13 2019 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>the main splittable thing is the bot work ..? I think the guide would probably take a few minutes to draft up</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175657023" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175657023">(Sep 13 2019 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok that's not true</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175657031" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175657031">(Sep 13 2019 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>it'd take a lot longer to do properly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175657046" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175657046">(Sep 13 2019 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I got <a href="#narrow/stream/187780-t-compiler.2Fwg-llvm/topic/LLVM.20ICE-breaker.20group" title="#narrow/stream/187780-t-compiler.2Fwg-llvm/topic/LLVM.20ICE-breaker.20group">no feedback here</a> so we'll probably start with something ungreat</p>



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<p>and maybe ask for help in the announcement in improving it :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175658367" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175658367">(Sep 13 2019 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span> seems good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175658637" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175658637">(Sep 13 2019 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can go ahead an open an issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.09.12/near/175658972" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E09.2E12.html#175658972">(Sep 13 2019 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/174" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/174">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/174</a> feel free to edit</p>



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